Episode 3

April 25, 2024

00:36:31

3 - Delightful Di - about long term relationships, motherhood and life as an expat

3 - Delightful Di - about long term relationships, motherhood and life as an expat
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3 - Delightful Di - about long term relationships, motherhood and life as an expat

Apr 25 2024 | 00:36:31

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Di, my precious guest, talks about her long marriage, handling three kids as an expat and gives tips on how to make things work long-term.

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[00:00:07] Speaker A: Hello there, fellow humans. Welcome to my podcast. Thanks for tuning in. I am so very grateful for you to be here. I am Jaska Jost and this is Interview with you. Today not yet with you today with Di. An amazing lady handling gracefully a long term relationship, three kids and life as an expat, you will learn that she may or may not be married to a dolphin. We will touch upon her tips and tricks on how to keep a long term relationship running and handle three kids at the same time. There is again, a lot of giggles and unsolicited wisdom. Make sure that next time the interview is with you, get in touch with me to arrange it. The contacts are in the description of the episode and or in the description of the podcast. And now let's go. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Hello and welcome to my podcast. [00:01:11] Speaker C: Today I have here my precious guest, Di a precious lady. [00:01:17] Speaker B: I'm very happy for you to be here. [00:01:20] Speaker C: Welcome. I will say a little bit about you. So Dee is 47 years old. She's been married for a long time. [00:01:32] Speaker B: 19 years of marriage. And she has three kids. They are no longer babies, but they are still kids, right? [00:01:40] Speaker C: How old are they? [00:01:41] Speaker D: The oldest is 17, girl, and then the boy, 13 and, sorry, 13 and a half. So nearly 14 and eleven, the youngest. [00:01:54] Speaker C: Okay. [00:01:54] Speaker A: But still kids. [00:01:56] Speaker D: It will always be the kids, right? No matter the race. [00:02:00] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:02:01] Speaker B: For us there, I always tell my. [00:02:02] Speaker C: Kids, you are my babies and you. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Will always be my babies. [00:02:05] Speaker C: They don't like it, but it's a fact. [00:02:07] Speaker B: So, as you know, this podcast is about the relationships. It's also very. [00:02:13] Speaker C: I find it very inspirational to be. [00:02:16] Speaker B: In such a long relationship. But I will first ask, like, let's start slowly. I don't know if you know, because. [00:02:25] Speaker C: There is this kind of a little. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Test that goes over Internet. It's about your favorite color and about your favorite animal. [00:02:33] Speaker C: Have you heard it before? [00:02:35] Speaker D: No. [00:02:37] Speaker C: No. [00:02:38] Speaker B: Very good. So that's good because it works better if you, you know, if you don't know it. So I would first ask you, what's your. Well, like, what's your favorite color? [00:02:47] Speaker C: And some like, deep reasons why so lucky? Not because it's pretty la la, but like, so. [00:02:54] Speaker B: So what's your favorite color? [00:02:56] Speaker C: And like, why, what does it represent for you? Sort of thing. [00:03:00] Speaker D: So my favorite color, I think, for clothes is blue. I don't know why, just feel. I feel nice in it. But for example, from nature, I really like autumn colors when there is autumn, because I like these deep reds, orange colors. It's somehow. I don't know. It's I like the. The multitude of colors the nature offers. And it's with the, you know, with the wet and damp soil. It kind of brings this feeling when you get connected to the nature. And the colors give you kind of like, energy in your day before the gray, cold winter. It brings this fire, you know, into your energy. It feels that. It energizes. We have this fiery energy coming from the nature. Just before then, everything goes to sleep. [00:04:02] Speaker B: And tell me, what is, like, your favorite animal and wild, as in what. [00:04:06] Speaker C: It symbolizes for you, and then I will tell you what it all means. [00:04:10] Speaker D: I think it might be kind of connected, the animal with the color, you know, for me, I really like dolphins. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. You mean. No, no, it's just like you said, it's connected to the colors, and you were talking about oranges. [00:04:23] Speaker D: I had the color I like to wear, and then the colors, which, you know, from the nature, which I like. [00:04:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:28] Speaker D: But, yeah. My favorite animal is dolphin. It's for, I think, for as long as I can remember. I like the. Because they are in the water, and you have this fluency of water when they swim. And what I also like about. About it is the. The way they communicate and the sense of their community. You know, it's just. [00:04:53] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I like about dolphins. That's. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Oh, so sweet. [00:04:59] Speaker C: I will tell you what it means. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Okay. So, I mean, yeah, it's a test that goes around the Internet. So, I mean, I suppose it's not, you know, from Harvard University or something, but I think there's something to it. So the favorite color and, like, the. [00:05:14] Speaker C: Reasons why and all that is supposed to represent you, which are you. [00:05:21] Speaker B: You know, I like who you are, which I find it very nice. Like, as you said, you know, all the energy that the nature still brings and how beautiful it is. [00:05:32] Speaker C: So you should sink into that, because. [00:05:35] Speaker B: I think it's figures. And for the animal that's also interesting, it's supposed to be your ideal partner, so. [00:05:48] Speaker C: And I love how you said how. [00:05:51] Speaker B: He swims and how they communicate and how, you know, they have the community, how they swim, you know, in the water, which should represent, I suppose, emotions and stuff. So I think I should ask my. [00:06:04] Speaker D: Husband about his favorite animal to see what his expectations from, for me are. [00:06:11] Speaker B: Absolutely. I mean, I think it's a nice exercise. By the way, when I did, I heard it for the first time. I have to always laugh when I remember it. [00:06:20] Speaker C: I hope my husband doesn't listen to. [00:06:22] Speaker B: This, but I thought of my favorite animal. It was a turtle, which is very funny. But I mean, if I imagine my husband as a turtle, but, you know, it's because they are wise, was my reasoning behind. [00:06:38] Speaker C: But anyway, so is your husband your. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Ideal dolphin, you think? Or how far did you get from your ideal? Well, I mean, hypothetical. [00:06:52] Speaker D: I don't think my husband is a dolphin. No, but. [00:06:58] Speaker E: Good. [00:06:58] Speaker B: I think it's not legal to be married to a dolphin, so. [00:07:02] Speaker C: Good, good. [00:07:03] Speaker D: But he likes to swim. [00:07:05] Speaker E: Okay. [00:07:07] Speaker D: Yeah, he started with diving, so maybe, you know, maybe we get there one day. [00:07:13] Speaker C: So, you know what? [00:07:14] Speaker B: You know, he's trying to be better for you. You see, you don't know it subconsciously. [00:07:20] Speaker C: No, no, no. [00:07:20] Speaker D: I'm actually. And I'm happy for that because, okay. With three kids, we really, for a long time not having family here, did not really have much chance to do something for ourselves. So finally, his dream of trying out the diving, he now has the chance when we don't have to be with the kids around the clock. So that's nice. [00:07:43] Speaker C: Yeah, that's right. [00:07:44] Speaker B: I have a piece of unsolicited wisdom to this. You seem to be very well aware of this, but I want to say. [00:07:59] Speaker C: Anyway, like you say, he does it for himself, but everything people do for. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Themselves, they also do for us. [00:08:09] Speaker C: Because whatever makes, you know, a person. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Happy, then makes him a happier person, and happy person is a happier partner and so on and so forth. [00:08:20] Speaker C: So if possible, let's let our partners. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Do what makes them happy. Because in the end, it's good for. [00:08:31] Speaker C: Us as well, and we will have happy family. End of unsolicited wisdom. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Also, there's something important to add. [00:08:43] Speaker C: I didn't mention this, but we live. [00:08:46] Speaker B: In Luxembourg and we are both expats, as it happens. [00:08:49] Speaker C: So it's just to say how, like. [00:08:52] Speaker B: I think it's very admirable to be in a relationship for such a long time and have three children. And I think the fact that you. [00:09:00] Speaker C: As an expat, don't have any family. [00:09:02] Speaker B: Here to help with the kids, it makes you even more amazing, you know. [00:09:07] Speaker C: In case you didn't know. [00:09:10] Speaker D: But I think. I think you can also live in a same community. So I think we are really lucky also with the friends we made. We have like our own little family here. So if the shit goes down, there is. There are people we can call on in case we really, you know. So I'm grateful for that as well. [00:09:32] Speaker C: Yes, they say it's. [00:09:34] Speaker B: It takes a village to raise a child, that's for sure. True. [00:09:38] Speaker C: So it's very good to have support. It reminds me, I was talking to a friend recently, and he was commenting on how people live in communities where they are born. [00:09:56] Speaker B: I think he was referring to a. [00:09:58] Speaker C: Particular part of Spain where, you know. [00:10:01] Speaker B: People live in a community, like a broader family community, in a little place. [00:10:07] Speaker C: Where, you know, everybody knows each other. [00:10:10] Speaker B: And he said, I couldn't live like this, you know, to have your brought. [00:10:16] Speaker C: Family all the time around you, people that you don't really have much to talk about that are so much different than you. [00:10:27] Speaker B: And he said, yeah, I'm so happy I can travel and choose the people. [00:10:32] Speaker C: To surround me with who are like minded. And I've been thinking about it since, because to me, it feels a little bit like that. [00:10:44] Speaker B: These broader family communities are a little bit like the expat communities for us. [00:10:51] Speaker C: You know, for us being here in Luxembourg and being czech, we tend to. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Meet with the czech people to practice. [00:11:00] Speaker C: The language and stuff like that. But these are people who I'm pretty sure I wouldn't meet if I stayed in my homeland. So they are different than the people. [00:11:14] Speaker B: That I would normally surround myself with. [00:11:17] Speaker C: And so it feels a little bit. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Like the broader family community that my friend was referring to. [00:11:30] Speaker C: And I think it's actually a good. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Thing because it teaches you, I think, a very important skill, and that is. [00:11:41] Speaker C: To accept different people as they are and love them despite the differences and kind of live together with people that are different. [00:11:56] Speaker B: I think it's a skill which is. [00:11:58] Speaker C: Very useful that as many people as possible should have. [00:12:05] Speaker B: But let's get back to your particular concrete relationship, because I think I find it, like, in my surroundings, I don't. [00:12:15] Speaker C: See so many, you know, such long term relationships. [00:12:19] Speaker B: And so it's interesting to know and hear how it works. Like, for people who, for example, if you are single for a long time and you want a partner and you think that everything is pink and always, and you unicorns throw up rainbows and everything is fine. [00:12:39] Speaker C: And so what would you say about. [00:12:44] Speaker B: A long term relationship? Like, how does it feel for you? [00:12:47] Speaker C: Like, at times, is it the same always? [00:12:50] Speaker B: Is it op? Is it as you imagined? [00:12:54] Speaker D: I think, like, everything in life, you know, nothing is just like pink or rainbow, you know? So to be honest, we are both working full time, as you said, we have three kids who are at school. They have after school activities. So we kind of don't have much time to see each other as much because the whole day we are kind of at work or working from home, the kids are at school, the school days here are relatively long. So, you know, we picking up the youngest one, let's say between five, half past five to half past six by the time we get home. Then you try to quickly feed the kids. They also have sports, so, you know, football, volleyball. So then you drive them to training, pick them up from training. So we kind of all get home and around 08:00 by the time you eat. And so there is not really that much time during the week for like many interactions. So, okay, it can be sometimes good and sometimes, okay, you can have a stressful day. So there is not much time even to like, let's say if you blow up to have time to kind of make up or explain stuff because it's just the day is too short. So it's mainly weekends. So if there are no any matches or competitions, then there is some space to be together half a day, a day. So I think this, it's quite fast paced. So it's just the time flies to be together sometimes. And I know family when the mom works part time so that they manage to kind of get more family time when they are, like, all together. But I think this is easier when the kids are younger now, when the kids are older, they have their friends and they also want to be. So it's, it's still, we are kind of taxi drivers of our kids at the moment a lot. So I think this, you know, this helps kind of to keep, you know, not to get too many bumps on away. Like, there is not much time to dwell on, you know, conflicts because they are not. There is not much time on them. I mean, of course we get frustrated with each other, I suppose, a lot or not that I can't judge for my husband, but I think there is not much time to waste on it, you know, like to waste on arguments and stuff. So that helps sometimes and sometimes not. Sometimes I would like to be, you know, able to sit down and discuss maybe, you know, because I feel sometimes that the relationship gets stuck at some point and there is really not much space to discuss it. We don't have a big house. We live in an apartment, one floor, like, you know, apartment. So it's not even different levels. [00:16:00] Speaker C: So there is no escape from anyone. [00:16:05] Speaker D: You know, so we kind of are, like, together even though we don't have much time to discuss. But so that's why it makes it, I think, sometimes difficult to just sit down as two because there is always a kid around and I don't like to kind of hash the problems or in front of the kids or discuss, because I think it should be something more personal and just, you know, between us two not to have to take into account also the feelings of the kids if they hear it, how to say it, you know? So I think this is what maybe, and as we mentioned, we don't have the family here, so it's not like, you know, that you can drop off the kids for a weekend with the grandparents or something. [00:16:44] Speaker B: You have the disadvantage. I'm just thinking about, like, my family compared to yours because you all speak the same language while we don't. So we have like a secret language with my husband, so we can still talk about stuff. I mean, I also prefer not to, if we have a fight, I absolutely. [00:17:00] Speaker C: Prefer the kids not to be there. [00:17:02] Speaker B: But even if you speak a different. [00:17:05] Speaker C: Language, if you kind of raise your. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Voice and it gets a bit heated, then the kids are absolutely not stupid and they absolutely pick up on that. [00:17:14] Speaker D: No, we get like into arguments, not big ones that we get. But the thing is, like the option to just sit down and then just talk it over, it's. It's a bit tricky here. And to be honest, in these 17 years we have kids, we had like twice, I think, a week, twice like, so two weeks in those 17 years when we were just alone, when the kids, we ship them. [00:17:47] Speaker B: So the advice to keep the long. [00:17:50] Speaker C: Term relationship running is do not spend. [00:17:53] Speaker B: Too much time together. [00:17:56] Speaker C: Tada. It was a joke. Let's continue. [00:18:10] Speaker D: My hopes are when the kids get, like bigger and bigger, that, you know, we will be able to get some more alone time. [00:18:18] Speaker B: That's very sweet. You mean alone like alone with your husband or alone like alone? [00:18:25] Speaker D: No, I mean, I think we can get alone time because, you know, this is when you try to make sure that when you telework that the other one works from the office, so at least you get some alone time. But now to be. Just to be able to go somewhere on our own, you know, just without the kids. [00:18:45] Speaker B: I find this actually very nice because. [00:18:49] Speaker C: Quite frankly, more often than not before. [00:18:52] Speaker B: I want the time with my husband. I really absolutely need the time alone. [00:18:57] Speaker C: It's. [00:18:58] Speaker B: I don't know if it's sad or strange that I really need first to be alone, then spend my time with my husband. [00:19:05] Speaker D: I think that's normal because you need to ground yourself. And I think I am able to get an alone time. That's not a problem. I mean, I. Every week I. And I'm a night also. I usually get it when everyone goes sleep and then I can be with me and my, you know, myself and my head. But I think both of us, we are able to get an alone time. That's not our issue. It's like, you know, to just maybe just ask to go to cinema or something. Something else than Disney or marvel. [00:19:38] Speaker B: Or go away for a weekend. That sounds like, basically impossible, right? [00:19:45] Speaker C: You know what? [00:19:46] Speaker A: I would like to ask you something. [00:19:50] Speaker C: What do you think is the key. [00:19:52] Speaker B: For a successful romantic relationship? Of course, jokes aside, I know it's not the notion to spend time together. [00:20:01] Speaker C: So what is your magical trick? [00:20:04] Speaker D: Oh, gosh. To be honest, I'm not sure because I don't feel my relationship is totally successful. I mean, we like 19 years if you are in a long term relationship. And of course they are like, you know, the period of this when you are in, you know, in love and these pink glasses that kind of go, Sophie. And then you have kids and you start to have issues at work and the kids are sick and you have to deal with, I don't know, something happens with your family back home. And so there are factors which don't help to this relaxed feeling, and everything is perfect. I think this is. This is it. To have times for just a couple which we kind of don't manage to somehow organize, but what we make fun with friends. It's like just, if you want to make sure that your. Your marriage will last, just have a mortgage or something which keeps you together because it's more struggle than not to. [00:21:10] Speaker B: You still, I think, you know, there are relationships that have kids and have mortgages and they still fail. Or a little one want to say it's a failure, but when it doesn't work, it doesn't work. And my question was more like. [00:21:22] Speaker C: Like, what do you think? [00:21:24] Speaker B: Like, at the beginning when you chose your now husband, why was he a good choice? [00:21:33] Speaker C: What do you think makes you a good couple? [00:21:36] Speaker B: Because. Yeah, I mean, of course, it's not always pink, as we say, but I mean, 19 years, you are doing something. [00:21:41] Speaker C: Right, because 19 years, three kids, it. [00:21:44] Speaker B: Seems that it's working okay. Like, of course, up in the house, but. [00:21:48] Speaker C: So what do you think? Where did you do? Well, okay. [00:21:53] Speaker D: I cannot talk for my husband. Yeah. How he is managing to survive with me for such a long time. Well, it's both sides, right? [00:22:02] Speaker B: Because you are awesome. [00:22:04] Speaker D: Okay. I'm not always happy with him. I'm sure he's not always happy with me either. [00:22:08] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:22:08] Speaker D: I mean, that goes both ways. And I think this is what. I think this is one thing, you know, I think, which we have to be kind of honest about if I get frustrated with him, he for sure gets frustrated with me as well. So I think this is sometimes, you know, what I have in my mind is, okay, you know, it's, oh, he goes on my nerves, but then I say, oh, I'm sure going on his nerves as well. So I think this acceptance of also not being the perfect partner for someone, then you try to also not be as hard judge on the person because you don't want them to be hard judge on you either. Everyone, we all have our flaws. So I think that that's to accept. And I. And when I married him, I knew things where I knew he's not perfect or things he's not good at or so I don't expect that to change. So these things I try not to get frustrated with because I knew what I'm getting when I was getting it. So I'm not going to try now to look for something. So, yeah, it's more. I think it's about that just to accept that we all have our mistakes or our flaws and that the other person also have to live with ours. But you can't throw it in their face because, I mean, it's not fair. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. That's what I signed up for. I knew it. It's not like that. Okay. If he comes today and says he want to be, you know, Jehovah Witness, this is a kind of a deal breaker because I didn't sign up for that. [00:23:47] Speaker D: This makes me to think quite often, you know, of my grandma. She had really long lasting marriage. I think they were together like 50 years, over 50 years. And she. She was saying, look, he doesn't drink, he doesn't beat you, and, you know, he works and take cares of the kids and I. It should be normal that the man doesn't beat you and that he doesn't drink. But at the end, you know, the longer you are, I mean, you start to realize, like, you know, this little. I mean, it's like really going back to basic, to really our ancestors, you know, it makes difference if you have someone who, even though sometimes maybe you don't have this most romantic day, so whatever. But with the kids, your priorities also change. And if you have a partner who goes and pick up the kids or takes them and does stuff with them and drinking, you know, heavy drinking, that doesn't bring any happiness to any home. Right. I mean, we are talking about the glass. So in the tough moments, I think if you think about back to basics, it's actually still valid. So if you have a partner and you see that the kids like him and that he's good for your kids as well, you know, this is something you definitely can respect. And that also can, you know, that also keeps the, keeps the relationship going. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Absolutely. Because after I've had kids, really, the, you know, the perception of my previous relationships changed very much. [00:25:26] Speaker C: Like, you know, I thought, oh, I. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Thought I loved that person. But like, when I saw my child, I never loved anybody basically, you know, as much as I loved my child. [00:25:37] Speaker C: But with the kids also and with. [00:25:41] Speaker B: Time, because I mean, I've been married for now, ten years, which, I mean, it's just as admirable because it's a long term relationship and every year counts. Yeah, every year counts. And it's true that like, the relationship really. Or the. I say, yeah, the relationship changes in a way. Like it progresses to a completely different places. Yeah. After I've had kids, I mean, I, of course I love my husband, but it's completely different kind of love than at the beginning. Because at the beginning. Yeah, you don't, you don't see. Right. Some stuff. And after years of life, I see this flaw that gets on your nerves. [00:26:26] Speaker C: But at the same time, you also. [00:26:29] Speaker B: See things which you appreciate and also. [00:26:32] Speaker C: You see him as a person that's. [00:26:35] Speaker B: So important for your kids. And since you like, love your kids unconditionally and then he is so important for them, you also love him for that. So that's literally so complex. [00:26:48] Speaker C: But I wanted to say, because I. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Had this theory on, it's very simple, actually, how to choose your partner. It's super easy. [00:26:57] Speaker C: You just have to like, be attracted to them. It helps. [00:27:01] Speaker B: It's like one thing, and you have. [00:27:03] Speaker C: To have like common goals, you know, like, I think that's about it. [00:27:09] Speaker B: And of course that they are not. [00:27:10] Speaker C: Mentally ill or, you know, abusive. That's. I hope. [00:27:14] Speaker B: I hope goes without saying, but if you love somebody and you are attracted. [00:27:17] Speaker C: To them, but you want to live. [00:27:20] Speaker B: In a small village somewhere hidden, and they want to be a rock star, it will never work. Or have a partner that you love dearly, but he wants to sit in front of the tv the whole day while you want to go to sports and. Or travel, you know, this is not compatible. And then it's not to say that there's anything wrong with either. [00:27:42] Speaker C: No, I mean, you do you. [00:27:45] Speaker B: I think in order for relationship to. [00:27:47] Speaker C: Work, it's like to have common goals. Yeah, you want kids, you don't want kids. You know, there is no way this can be compatible. [00:27:55] Speaker B: You cannot force people for this, like big life goals to accommodate you. [00:28:03] Speaker C: I think then it's time to break it up. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Well, I want to say, you know. [00:28:09] Speaker C: I used to think when I was. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Younger that once you find a big. [00:28:15] Speaker C: Love and these huge feelings, then that you have to make sacrifices. And I don't know what, just to keep the big love going, but I. [00:28:26] Speaker B: Don'T think so now anymore. [00:28:28] Speaker C: In fact, I think you need to know yourself to know what you want. [00:28:35] Speaker B: And find somebody that wants the same things, at least the major things. Okay. [00:28:41] Speaker C: I mean, maybe the lying on the. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Sofa versus doing sports is not such a deal breaker. Maybe it was not a good example. [00:28:49] Speaker C: But the big things, like, I want. [00:28:52] Speaker B: To live in the countryside and you want to live in the city, and. [00:28:55] Speaker C: None of us can imagine the other. [00:28:58] Speaker B: Life and would have to make some big sacrifices. [00:29:02] Speaker C: I think that's not going to work. [00:29:06] Speaker B: Or having kids and stuff like that. [00:29:08] Speaker C: So that's, that's my theory. [00:29:13] Speaker B: But, you know, I know nothing. I'm just married for ten years. I want to ask you one more thing to kind of end up on a positive note. What are the things that you appreciate about your husband? [00:29:26] Speaker C: Like, what are the things that, you. [00:29:30] Speaker B: Know, if you think of him like. [00:29:31] Speaker C: Yeah, this is his good side, you. [00:29:36] Speaker D: Know, the fact that we can, I think, you know, rely on each other. I can rely on him because this is about him. When it comes to the kids need to be picked up, you know, this organization of the free time of the kids. And he, and I really appreciate that he likes to go on, you know, biking and everything. So this is what the kids do with him because I can go on bike, but it's not something I lately enjoy much. So I appreciate that he takes the bike and goes with the boys and all, goes and kick the ball or he always forces us me to go for ski holidays. I kind of like mountains and snow. I'm not really that, like, passionate skier because I learned really late and I'm not really good at it, but it's actually his doing that. The kids really love skiing and are good at it and they always want to go for these ski holidays and they really enjoy it. And we go with other families. So it's really, actually nice always. So this is really, this is really his achievement. And he's the, it kind of drives me nuts, but actually I really appreciate it a lot. He's the like, treasurer of the family, so he has all this in check. As I say, he drives us nuts a little bit with his treasure in mind, he can be tough. But I really am really grateful for that because I know he keeps our finances in a good state. [00:31:16] Speaker C: So, so I appreciate that. [00:31:19] Speaker D: As I say, we, you know, it's, it's not, this is not a source of always, like, you know, good situations, but I really appreciate him for that. Maybe I should tell him. Maybe he doesn't know. Yeah, I'm really grateful how he, how he, you know, he's with kids even though, okay, he struggles a little bit now. And I think it, that can be tough, you know, for anyone, especially maybe that. I don't know. It depends what culture you came from as well because, you know, we grew up in communistic era in, you know, seventies, eighties, which, let's say, how the relationships were or the marriages where it was a bit specific. So we, you know, it's not like we saw much of this very nicely functioning, let's say, relationships. So he struggles little bit, let's say now with our daughter who is really like, you know, 17 and the hormones and he tries his best. And also now his mom is alone, so he always makes sure that at least once a month he goes there. It's just, you know, you appreciate it. So, you know, that he kind of is there to take care of people, you know, or even if, like, there is something back with my family, you know, I know that I have his support. So I think this is, this is what I really appreciate about him, a lot of things. [00:32:40] Speaker B: And I think this is another thing about successful functional or semi functional relationships. I think it's important also for you. [00:32:49] Speaker C: To feel good in it, to really like consciously. [00:32:53] Speaker B: And sometimes you force yourself to think about what you appreciate about the people and not to take it for granted. [00:33:00] Speaker C: Because it helps to, you know, ease the way sometimes when, when things are not easy. You should also think about the things. [00:33:12] Speaker B: You appreciate about yourself. This is the same exercise and you. [00:33:15] Speaker C: Should do it every day because, I mean, you know, who else will do it for you? [00:33:22] Speaker D: The helping hand you always find at the end of your arm. Right, but this is a similar thing. [00:33:28] Speaker B: Exactly. It's nice to know your qualities and appreciate them because then sometimes you're the. [00:33:34] Speaker C: Only one who does that. But it's good. I think we will end up on this positive note. [00:33:43] Speaker B: So appreciate our partners and don't take. [00:33:45] Speaker C: Things for granted because this is good. [00:33:49] Speaker B: For the relationship to be functional. And I will thank you very much for your time. It is very inspiring your whole life. [00:33:58] Speaker C: And the way you handle it one handedly very well. [00:34:04] Speaker B: And so thanks so much for your time and maybe I'll see you another time also. [00:34:09] Speaker C: Thank you. Bye bye bye bye bye bye. [00:34:23] Speaker A: So that went well. Thanks for joining us today in interview with you. I hope you enjoy enjoyed the time as much as we did and that it brought something positive to your day and to your life. Don't forget to get in touch if you want to be my next guest or if you have anything else you want to share with me. The contact details are in the description of the episode and or in the. [00:34:48] Speaker B: Description of the podcast. [00:34:50] Speaker A: But if you're lazy or you have rather audio memory, my email address is Jaska Jost, without any space and spelled with j's. That is [email protected] I'm also on Facebook under Jaska Jost. I look forward to hearing from you and to possibly having the next interview. [00:35:18] Speaker B: With you. [00:35:24] Speaker E: Some a little further. Some can say things they will not do some sleep without a pill when it's all going to pass some are dropping their guitars some are trying to fight the time some will always stay dreaming you and I.

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